A question for the readers - If you would be so kind.
I have a question, an informal poll for the readers of this blog.
There are apparently at least two of you and thank you BTW for the comments and encouragement.
Which of the two examples above do you prefer for The National Flag of Vulgaria?
The Black is the common thread in all Vulgarian standards and uniforms, it reminds Vulgarians of their long struggle, if they were able to survive the black days they can survive all.
The great white Boar is a mythical Vulgarian animal that represents the Elector, heroism, sacrifice, stubbornness and a willingness to fight to the death. Bozidar the first Vulgarian chief led his people to this area of the world, although it was inhabited by a great white boar that stood 4 meters at the shoulder. After a week long fight Bozidar prevailed and wore the animals pelt as his royal robes; it was such a large animal that its flesh fed the entire nation for the first year. All wild boars in Vulgaria are believed to be descendents of this animal. They are hunted but never for sport, only for food and fur.
That brings us to the choice; for the red sun or the yellow sun. Clearly the yellow sun would be the new days of Vulgaria moving out of the black and into the light. Alternatively the red sun would represent the blood of the people martyred and sacrificed to provide an independent Vulgaria.
I'm leaning a bit towards the red sun, as the black and red are somewhat indicative of my own anarchist early years.
posted by Poruchik at 8:27 AM
17 Comments:
I think I like the red slightly more, although both look good.
(nice bit of founding myth/history, too. 4 meters! Yikes!)
It was a big pig!
But then aren't all our animal conquests bigger after the fact?
You shoulda' seen the size of that catfish that granddad caught!
Thanks for the vote. I'm trying to sort out the myth/history main players and families.
Oh, oh. I favour the yellow as it has greater contrast to the black; so I guess you've got a hung jury so far.
I really like the regimental flags, BTW. Kind of like the French quartered flags without the wide cross. And the white boar contrasts well with the different regimental facing colours.
(And I'm pleased that you're back to posting again.)
There's no reason you can't do both! After all, the genteel cavalryman wants to have a different standard than the plebian infantry! Or you could have one as the regular army banner and in remembrance of your anarchist days, the other for the people's forces (militia).
Well, both 'disobey' the heraldic rules -color on another color for the red sun on black, metal on another metal for the silver boar on a gold sun. Now the heraldic rules were not unbased, but aimed at keeping visibility / lisibility, i.e. insured *contrast*. Thus, the 'silver boar on a red sun' is clearly more contrasted / the animal would be more easily identified from a distance: recommended!
Jean-Louis
I prefer the red sun myself . . . even though it isn't "heraldicly correct", so what . . . I think that it looks sharp.
Of course you might do something like use the yellow sun in peacetime and the red sun as your "war flag".
Both do look good . . . but I prefer the red sun.
On another matter, it seems like you left the "Emperor vs Elector" group blog at some point (although I've continued to list your blog on the side). Would you like to return?
If so, let me know at bluebear@uniserve.com and you will be welcomed back.
-- Jeff
Hmmmmm....
Red, I think....
I'd go red!
alan
Yellow. It looks less cluttered on the flag
what about a yellow 'burst' about a red disk?
This way you get the best of both!
I actually thought that very thing murdock. If I surround the red disk with a yellow sun burst I maintain the erhmm rules of heraldry and I get a bit more contrast. I'll need to work that up and post it to see how it looks.
Donald~
Hello there Donald,
It's been a while -- Good to see you back. Of the four standards, I prefer the alternating blue and black quadrants behind the boar. It's just a bit more sinister than the others.
Best Regards,
Stokes
Hi Poruchik
"The great white Boar is a mythical Vulgarian animal that represents the Elector, heroism, sacrifice, stubbornness and a willingness to fight to the death."
Then you may appreciate this tune, entitled ’The Great Old Boar’
Jean-Louis
aka Louys de Monte-Cristo
P.S.: no AAR for that glorious battle fought by the Russian-Vulgarian Alliance against the Turks?
I'd personally concur for the red as well. Though for me, it is more the color contrast than anything else. The pig is clearer on the red.
Hi Poruchik,
the colors and the device are differentn but your "Sable, a silver boar on a sun of gules" banner follows the pattern of the Austrian Leibfahne, with its image of Virgin Mary on a 'radiating' aura. A respectable historical precedent.
Then, if I may, a mid-18th C. flag would probably be less 'elongated', more square-shaped?
Looking forward to read more of the Vulgarian army, its unit profiles and its campaigns.
Cheers,
Jean-Louis
Have you thought of the sunburst gules fimbricated or (or possibly argent)? That would certainly obey the (British) rules of heraldry. Bear in mind, though, that Continental Europe was always less rigisd in such matters. I would go for the red on black (Gules upon Sable) as offering the better contrast with the "boar passant argent".
This is a Vulgar flag, forget the hearaldry rules. I prefer the yellow sun, but would suggest 4 red rays (in the pattern you see on Russian or Prussian flags) and a more squarish flag.
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